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ChazmanianDevil
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• 9/11/2016

Something that really pissed me off

Now, overall, Captain America: Civil War was an absolute abortion of a movie. However, this rant focuses only on one of it's many flaws. That is, Wakanda.

In an earlier part of the movie, Wakanda is shown to be in the general area where Uganda, South Sudan, Kenya and Ethiopia congregate. This would make their culture, language and genetic makeup mostly Nilotic, with some small influences from Bantu and Kushitic cultures. However, king T'challa was played by Chadwick Boseman, who, don't get me wrong, was a great actor, and his character was one of the few redeeming qualities of the movie, but, he is of African American heritage. African-Americans are descended almost entirely from Bantu populations, along with heavy Northern European mixing depending. To make matters worse, T'challa and T'chaka were shown speaking to eachother in Xosa, a Bantu language from South Africa, that has heavy Khoi-San phonological influence. That would be the geographical and cultural equivalent of Marvel creating a fictional nation in Northwestern Kazakhstan that speaks Maltese and has a population portrayed by Irish actors. Wrap your head around that.

Thoughts?

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ChazmanianDevil
Argali1
Morgoth the first dark lord
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• 9/24/2016

Ones that were perfect for the part, speak English, and not detained in other tasks? As you said, Chadwick Boseman is a great actor, and you said he played the part well. So why complain? Again, haven't seen the movie so I can't judge.

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• 9/25/2016

There are plenty of actors that fit the criteria I described, they'd just have to go looking.

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• 9/25/2016

It'd be different if they chose an actor who was crappy, but as you said he was a great actor and made a great character, so why are we complaining? Again, I'm at a severe disadvantage because I still haven't seen the movie. (Grr...)

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• 10/9/2016

Okay, now I've seen the movie I can refute this more accurately.

Firstly, you're thinking of T'Chaka, that's Chadwick Boseman's character. T'Challa is his father.

Secondly, you can't complain about him being African American, that's what the majority of African actor's in America are, because you know, African American.

Thirdly, you already admitted he did a fantastic job, so why complain? Better that they got the perfect actor for the part than make sure his ancestory is right. I don't think you'd complain about a person with French Ancestory playing someone Greek.

Fourth, you said mostly, you don't even know Boseman's ancestory you're just assuming he share's the majority of African American's ancestory. That's like assuming I'm automatically English.

Fifth, I looked it up, and they used Xhosa because the actor for T'Challa, (Boseman's character's father,) already knew the language, and knew how to teach it to Boseman, which was a major time saver.

Boseman was fantastic, and was one of the highlight' she of the most movie, so I don't think it's right to slam him for his possible heritage.

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• 10/10/2016

ChazmanianDevil wrote: Okay, now I've seen the movie I can refute this more accurately.

Firstly, you're thinking of T'Chaka, that's Chadwick Boseman's character. T'Challa is his father.

Secondly, you can't complain about him being African American, that's what the majority of African actor's in America are, because you know, African American.

Thirdly, you already admitted he did a fantastic job, so why complain? Better that they got the perfect actor for the part than make sure his ancestory is right. I don't think you'd complain about a person with French Ancestory playing someone Greek.

Fourth, you said mostly, you don't even know Boseman's ancestory you're just assuming he share's the majority of African American's ancestory. That's like assuming I'm automatically English.

Fifth, I looked it up, and they used Xhosa because the actor for T'Challa, (Boseman's character's father,) already knew the language, and knew how to teach it to Boseman, which was a major time saver.

Boseman was fantastic, and was one of the highlight' she of the most movie, so I don't think it's right to slam him for his possible heritage.

I'm not assuming anything, I looked up his heritage. Furthermore, I'm not slamming him, I'm slamming the directors of Civil War.

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• 10/10/2016

Okay, but the other points still stand. And again, the directors thought having the right actor was more important than having one with the right heritage. And I agree with them.

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• 10/10/2016

If he looked convincing, that would be fine, but he looks unmistakably West-African!

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• 10/10/2016
Then the map is wrong and the Wakandan's are in West Africa. They actually were there in some of the comics so there you go.
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• 10/16/2016
That's still a mistake on the part of the movie.
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• 10/16/2016

Okay, you want my explanation? Xhosa is a stand in for the Wakandan language which is actually completely different, and T'Challa's mother was West African or something. There you go.

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